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Tuition at Duke is 70k per year.

Buying a game system is the least of your problems there


Again, that’s not the discussion. See my reply over two hours ago:

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=47804719

Additionally, the page says:

> more than 50 Playdates have been provided to students

Provided. To me that doesn’t seem like the students are paying for them. From other comments in the thread of former Duke students using iPods, it seems Duke lends you the hardware.

Furthermore, “tuition is expensive so buying expensive hardware is the least of your problems” is not a good argument. There’s a reason people in the USA drown in student debt. Whatever you can save is good.


They aren't drowning in debt because of supplies, they're drowning in debt because both the federal + state governments have stopped investing in education since the GFC in 2008. That plus a bloated admin body that cares about itself more than its literal mission (providing education + research).

> The price of that book could pay for months (and in some cases years) of tuition in EU countries.

What happens in magical places with free or heavily subsidized college has little to do with what an expensive private US university does.

If a German college decides 200$ is too much they can use Godot or a variety of free alternatives.


How much ram on the MacBook.

God bless these open models. Claude can’t subsidize its users forever and no one can afford 1200$ a month for llm credits.


> no one can afford 1200$ a month for llm credits.

you'd be surprised....


A Blackwell pro is only 10k.

Will Claude constantly be able to deliver more value than rolling your own ?

I think the future is a bunch of just good enough models, which is what most people need. Not top of the line models that require millions in hardware to run


not that I disagree with you in principle but I see this the same was a "cloud" - 10's of thousands of companies could save gazillion dollars by hosting their infrastructure and yet they continue to pay insane amounts of moneys to AWSs and Azures and whatnots. While some company's future may as well be running local models I would venture a guess that vast majority will just eat the costs and pass on as much of it as they can to their customers...

Hmm, can we agree open models place a sort of price ceiling on what most companies will pay.

Eventually another cloud provider can just spin up a few llms vs paying whatever Claude demands


Looking to move off ollama on Open Suse tumbleweed.

Should I use brew to install llma.ccp or the zypper to install the tumbleweed package?


You can compile it from source, all you need to do is clone the repository and do a `cmake -B build -DGGML_VULKAN=1` (add other backends if you want) followed by a `cmake --build build --config Release` and then you get all the llama tools in the `build/bin` (including `llama-server` which provides a web-based interface). There is a `docs/build.md` that has more detailed info (especially if you need another backend, though at least on my RX 7900 XTX i see no difference in terms of performance between Vulkan and ROCm and the former is much more stable and compatible -- i tried ROCm for a bit thinking it'd be much faster but only ended up being much more annoying as some models would OOM on it while they worked on Vulkan -- if you or NVIDIA hardware all this may sound quaint though :-P).

Cool, I assume this is how adults use llms.

I’m on a nvidia gpu , but I want to be able to combine vram with system memory.


Why are you looking to move off Ollama? Just curious because I'm using Ollama and the cloud models (Kimi 2.5 and Minimax 2.7) which I'm having lots of good success with.

Ollama co mingles online and local models which defeats the purpose for me

You can disable all cloud models in your Ollama settings if you just want all local. For cloud you don't have to use the cloud models unless you explicitly request.

Why not just download the binaries from github releases?

Is anyone archiving these accents ?

As much as I’m happy that kids now have access to YouTube, and thus can use the neutral influencer dialect, something about our culture is being erased.

I grew up speaking both a neutral California accent and bits of AAVE. AAVE itself is drastically different depending on the part of the US you’re in. I can barely understand southern AAVE. NYC AAVE is much faster, but I think NYC people think faster in general.

I really do believe YouTube can bring gaps. If your a kid in Albania you can see life though the eyes of someone in Oakland.

And hop on a zoom 30 minutes later to chat. This would be unimaginable 50 years ago.


They have audio samples if that’s what you mean. The ones from where I grew up were spot on but rare even when I was growing up in the 90s.

https://aschmann.net/AmEng/#AudioFilesOfLocalDialects


I looked through and found one rejected video from Montreal. It's crazy to me, to reject someone with a French accent. It's how people talk here! Many consider themselves perfectly bilingual and grew up speaking both languages. Even the more Anglo-Quebecois have a very specific vocabulary and accent heavily influenced by French.

I used to visit French speaking Canada when I was in college. I found it interesting to see people who could switch between an Anglo-Canadian accent and a French-Canadian accent, to my ear sounding native at both. This wasn't everyone obviously, but there were people like that.

Radio followed by television has done a lot of homogenization even if you don't have the more formalized received pronunciation you had/have in the UK. Even something stereotypical like a "Boston accent" was mostly a Southie accent on the one hand and an essentially English (Boston Brahmin) on the other. Most urbanites in particular never had others and many weren't even from Boston.

I am the type of person to notice accents a lot, one interesting thing I've noticed is how much NYC AAVE has the vowels of other NYC accents, like the stereotypical "cawfee" vowels. A lot of AAVE across the country sounds kind of like the south to my ear, but NY is one place where the local AAVE has a lot in common with other local accents.

This is even more true if you find old recordings.


Yes, this is being done, and has been done. A variety of linguistic atlas projects record audio and make written phonetic transcriptions: https://www.linguisticatlasproject.org/ There are also many dialect and accent arechives, such as https://www.dialectsarchive.com/ and https://accent.gmu.edu/.


Wikitongues is doing this with languages.

https://www.youtube.com/@Wikitongues/videos


> And hop on a zoom 30 minutes later to chat. This would be unimaginable 50 years ago.

It was pretty easy to imagine 50 years ago. For example, Star Trek started airing 60 years ago. The Jetsons started airing a few years before that.


The video call sequence in 2001 from 1968 comes to mind too.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vWwo6JpMceg


Picturephones were developed in the 30s and demoed at the '64 world's fair.

And it would be basically free and accessible to anyone? Two 50$ cell phones can Zoom using library WiFi across the globe

I think the conflict is on the term unimaginable. People back then definitely imagined the equivalent of Zoom and it being free even if they didn't know technically how it could happen.

Remember when long distance calling was really expensive.

It was for serious business, not small talk. If you somehow knew Zoom would happen you could have created Zoom and you’d be very rich.

TBF, unimaginable is a strong word. Impractical would be better.


It was on the way there even before Star Trek: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_videotelephony#AT&T...

The next one down is a home system on a subscription, though just after Star Trek and expensive at the time.


Back in the 80s, Zortech was located in London while I lived in the Seattle area. International phone calls were too expensive, so we would communicate by fax. Late at night, sending a fax cost about a dollar a page. (No email then.)

An unanticipated result is I have a record of our conversations, which would have all been lost if it was phone calls.


Some of the YouTube links are broken or have moved Private. Too bad.

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> Also, black Americans don't call themselves "African-American" unless they were raised in a white environment. Never have.

I'm guessing you either don't remember or weren't alive in the 1990's. It was a whole grassroots movement and pretending it didn't exist is extremely insensitive, to put it mildly.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/African_Americans#Terminology


This doesn't look like John McWhorter to me. Does it look like McWhorter to you? It looks like Geoffrey Pullum. You know, that Geoffrey Pullum?

https://web.stanford.edu/~zwicky/aave-is-not-se-with-mistake...


That was a fascinating read! Thanks for the link.

> and is often far more similar to their white neighbors than to the black people in the next state over

Actually you might be right depending on how integrated the area is:

Exhibit A: Your Old Droog Exhibit B: Lord Sko

As an adult my normal speaking voice is closer to a relaxed California accent. It’s clear , but it always leaves room to weasel out of certain situations.

If I could I’d probably use a Mid Atlantic Madmen accent. That accent gets things done.


AAVE is the modern politically correct term for what was already called Ebonics for decades (by black people).

If I like an artist I buy a physical copy of the album.

I just brought Light Years on cassette by Nas.

I’m an hobbyist musician and I’m going to sell actual cassettes and donate the profits. I’m never going to get the 500 million streams you need to make money off Spotify


We shouldn’t need the managers, but the record industry does everything it can to consolidate everything.

However, I do notice that for more uncommon music, the record industry sort it just looks the other way. For example Eminem has tons of really old music on YouTube that I’m sure his lawyers could figure out how to get taken down. But it just stays up.

I would really like music copyright to change within my lifetime. It should realistically be 30 years from first release, and after that it should go straight to the public domain. By then everyone’s made their money. Even Elvis won’t be public domain until like 2050 or 2060. I don’t really think he needs the money right now.


I agree mostly but take issue with "not needing managers". As someone who went from split shows to big venues to touring, managers (good ones) are a godsend.

Will there be convenient parking?

Do they have adequate power?

Is the stage big enough?

Do we need to book sound?

Is there a weather contingency?

Where can we sleep?

What time is load in?

What time is sound check?

What form of payment?

How will they be advertising?

Who do we give promotional materials to?

Etc etc. Having someone take care of all this stuff allows us to focus on practicing and recording (which has another long list of questions that need to be addressed).

Not to mention networking and venue access. Put all that stuff together and it's a full time job that artists are poorly equipped to handle.


I assumed managers in this context, meant the record industry machine. Most bands don’t care if you find a bootleg of a live recording, it’s going to be a very different experience versus an actual album anyway.

Well that would be legal/contractual stuff you signed with the label. Doesn't have anything to do with managers, which was why I wasn't really sure what parent was saying.

Serious question: are you a musician?

> However, I do notice that for more uncommon music, the record industry sort it just looks the other way. For example Eminem has tons of really old music on YouTube that I’m sure his lawyers could figure out how to get taken down. But it just stays up.

Or artists that have seen the merit in tolerating it/somewhat encouraging it. I'm a pretty hardcore Nine Inch Nails fan (seen >30 shows).

NINLive.com is a fantastic (unofficial) archive for our community. Close to 2k individual recordings, about 3/4 of all shows they've ever played have at least one recording.

NIN's camp is fully aware, the guy who runs the site has gotten invited to meet the band before. (And NIN has tossed unedited pro-shot tour footage to the fans before to play with, as well as things like directly linking to a fan-compiled concert film for another tour on their own home page).


I got invited to see a NIN show recently, which was very kind of them.

The process of actually getting in, post-invite, was a bit of a weird experience: Waiting around at the front of the venue, meeting some of his PR folks, walking all the way around the outside to go in the back door to get escorted in. At one point we were given some armbands so we could do what we wanted as if we were regular concert-goers and they turned us loose.

Anyway, as we were walking around that huge place and chatting, one of them (Marcus?) asked me how I got interested in Nine Inch Nails.

And the first thing that came that came out of my mouth was "It is entirely possible that I banned Trent Reznor from IRC 30 years ago."

The response was immediate: "Never tell him that."

Anyhow, the crew that I met were all a bunch of great folks. Wonderful positivity, fun to talk to. 10/10.

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(Now, you might be wondering why I banned Trent from #nin. That's easy: We banned everyone in that channel who said they were Trent Reznor. There's only one Trent, and these imposters showed up all the time so we did the right thing and got rid of them.

Except... I read an interview with him way back then, where he was asked specifically about IRC. His response was something like "Yeah, I tried IRC once and they banned me right away. Those guys are a bunch of dicks."

Whoops.)


This brought a wide smile to my face. Thank you for telling that story.

He hasn’t done anything new since Pretty Hate Machine. Which was a hell of a debut but he’s been recycling the chord progressions for almost 40 years.

A fun game is “how many lines can he go without saying I or me?” I do not encourage making a drinking game out of it.


>He hasn’t done anything new since Pretty Hate Machine.

As an electronic musician myself, I actually find myself agreeing with you - and I've been a fan of Trent since the beginning; lets say, envious of him from the very beginning, admittedly, also.

I think he has found a formula that brings industrial electronic synth-/picture- heavy art to the masses in a pretty clinical way.

I blame, as always in such cases, Trents' GAS. (Gear Acquisition Syndrome)

The degree to which an electronic musician sanitizes their gear, and actually more to the point: how often they do it, heavily maintains my interest in them, as a fan and as a musician.

Electronic artists who treat every single album as a chance to wipe the slate and plug in new things, are favoured in my camp. I especially like it when things go backwards and forwards - i.e. albums don't just keep getting Better Than Before™.


I mostly wrote a story about a concert. It was an amazing concert. I also wrote a missive about banning Trent Reznor from IRC three decades ago.

At the show, the music was good (of course it was -- I like NIN and have for decades), but the musicality of its performance was also very good. They all played it both with expert precision, and a great deal of passion. The endurance was staggering. And the technicals -- the management of different spaces (3 stages!), the PA, the lights, effects, video projections -- they all combined to alter my perspective of what is possible in a temporary, physical performance space.

I love going to concerts, big and small. This was my 4th NIN show. I've never been to any concert like that before.

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Anyway, you've already elected to change channels. So let's change channels.

You think Pretty Hate Machine was the embodiment of everything that Trent Reznor ever learned, or performed?

How does Broken fit into that picture? (It's very different, to me.)

How does the period-correct Purest Feeling fit into it? (It's very similar, but the horns are a bit much.)

How do the various Ghosts albums fit in there?

How do the rest of them?

What fits together, and what falls apart?

Please elaborate. While I'm not a musician and I don't have the background to dissect it myself, I do appreciate the elaborations of technical makeups of music when those who can take it apart elect to do so.

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The dude, Trent Reznor, has been publishing recorded music since 1989. I find the claim that it's all the same to be pretty extraordinary. I think that satisfaction of that claim would require extraordinary proof. (And I welcome that proof.)


NIN had a messy breakup with their original manager about 15 years into things. Once Trent Reznor emerged as more or less a free agent, he embraced radical approaches to distributing music and other media.

The instrumental album "Ghosts I-IV" was released under a Creative Commons BY-NC-SA license, and the music went everywhere - and you can draw a line directly from that choice to the Oscar for the score for The Social Network.

Concert photos, wallpapers, and other photos are still up on Flickr: https://www.flickr.com/photos/nineinchnails/albums

And the NIN camp utilized Vimeo alongside YouTube: https://vimeo.com/ninofficial

Rumor has it that Trent Reznor himself uploaded material to The Pirate Bay, because he didn't like the audio quality of the rips that were already floating around. There are three compilations that appeared, with custom artwork, including at least one exclusive version of a track that hasn't appeared anywhere else.

(p.s. wot up volk)


I can't remember which album it was, perhaps "With Teeth," or the mentioned "Ghosts I-IV," when Trent Reznor offered the GarageBand files for the album. I thought it was amazing for an artist to offer their work up for people to remix and view, as long as they weren't profiting off of it. I've done the same with my artwork over the years, hoping that someone would come along and collab or "remix" my art into something new and interesting. I don't do promotion, so it hasn't occurred, but the idea was inspired by NIN and I think it's an amazing idea that can really build a community.

As an early teen when Broken came out, and I happened to be connected to some people into the 90's emerging industrial scene (not to take away from earlier scenes), NIN has always been a huge inspiration and got me into the grittier side of metal music.


> I've done the same with my artwork over the years, hoping that someone would come along and collab or "remix" my art into something new and interesting. I don't do promotion, so it hasn't occurred, but the idea was inspired by NIN and I think it's an amazing idea that can really build a community.

You know, right this second I am listening to a MIDI recreation of the soundtrack to a very obscure German Atari ST puzzle game from '84. Something somebody recreated where I would be surprised if more than 500 people in the world ever heard the original.

Even though you might never learn of it, given the vast number of people out there, it is entirely likely that what you did already touched somebody out there. You do not need to have built a community in order to have done something of significance.


Oh hey, I certainly know that username!

And you're not going to plug yourself I certainly will: Appreciate your work on the NIN Hotline all these years and everything else you've done/added to the community.

> Rumor has it that Trent Reznor himself uploaded material to The Pirate Bay,

You'd certainly know better than I would but I feel like I recall Rob Sheridan confirming that in one of his interviews years later (not that there was really any doubt).


Trent also famously mourned the closing of Oink.fm, at one time the world largest largest music torrent tracker

https://www.wired.com/2007/10/trent-reznor-on/


I was exposed to a lot of really interesting music from Trent's what.cd profile back in the day.

I thought he uploaded to Oink as the rumor went. Maybe there's rumors about both :D

I only know The Pirate Bay history part well.

In 2006 there was a message posted by him in the forums that was: "This one is a guilt-free download. (shhhh - I didn’t say that out loud). If you know what I’m talking about, cool."

At the same time a user on TPB named "seed0" uploaded:

- A previously unreleased, professionally produced, expanded DVD version of Closure

- The full Broken movie in DVD quality (which had never leaked - the low-quality leaked versions that had circulated for yeas were missing part of it)

- 3 "The Definitive NIN" collections - which included some things that were difficult to find otherwise. (And today there are official playlists/collections by the same "Definitive NIN" name on the streaming platforms).

Maybe more but those are the most notable things I recall until all the pro-shot concert footage from the Lights in the Sky Tour got released to the fans to play with a few years later - most prominently turned into the "Another Version of the Truth - The Gift".

Not that there was any doubt, and while I don't feel like digging through all the interviews/AMAs I am almost certain that Rob Sheridan (creative director at the time) confirmed years later that the "leaks" were directly from the NIN camp.


Dave Matthews Band similarly cultivates the fan recordings.

https://antsmarching.org/ forum has hundreds, maybe thousands of show recordings. Often multiple for each night. They make their own official Soundboard releases that fans still purchase, but their stewardship of fan audio capture is commendable.


I am an artist who firmly does not believe in copyright - that all art must be copied in order to persist, or else it dies.

Really, I'm fine with it.

Musicians make money with their gigs, and that is how it should be.

Always throw a coin at live musicians, folks. They deserve it.


> the record industry does everything it can to consolidate everything.

Financialization ? Productize, promote, push ?


The problem is if you say the government can’t regulate MJ, then all drug regulations fall apart.

On one hand you should have a right to buy whatever you want at 21( which should be the minimum enlistment age), but I’d be concerned about Billy selling homemade GPLs or whatever.


> The problem is if you say the government can’t regulate MJ, then all drug regulations fall apart.

No, that's not what's being said. If you grow your own plant for personal use, there's no need for the federal government to be involved. If you grow that plant and then try to sell it, then there's some commerce which does fall under some regulation (we'll leave the interstate nuances aside). Having the fed being allowed to say you cannot grow in your house is one step away from saying you are only allowed to perform missionary position (no other positions are allowed) between the hours of 7-8pm, but not at all on Sunday.


And before people say you are being hyperbolic, the government still regulates sex positions. Sodomy is illegal in 12 US states.

Not the federal government, however.

There are specific prohibitions on certain categories of state laws, like granting titles of nobility, creating non-gold/silver currencies, etc. The federal government cannot constitutionally regulate sex positions, because anything not explicitly covered in the Constitution is reserved to the states, or the people. In that broad grant, however, the states individually can make or avoid making law on any topic.

As others have mentioned, the Supreme Court has frequently worked around the Constitution for reasons that made sense to them at the time, including the original ruling that this one overturns.


>The federal government cannot constitutionally regulate sex positions, because anything not explicitly covered in the Constitution is reserved to the states, or the people.

That being said, there's probably not a constitutional way to enforce laws regulating sex positions. Even if you don't agree that such laws are clearly discriminatory in intent (let alone impact), the privacy violations necessary to prove guilt "Beyond a reasonable doubt" almost certainly violate the Fourth Amendment, and any theory of harm would implicitly (if not explicitly) rest on religion.

This is all assuming you don't accept Griswold as a reasonable constitutional argument that pretty obviously would extend to the kinds of sex people have.


> That being said, there's probably not a constitutional way to enforce laws regulating sex positions.

Right, but until someone gets arrested for this, nobody has standing to challenge the constitutionality of the law itself. It is one of those unenforceable laws. Even biblical law required witnesses (never just one) before being able to prove adultery.


See also Griswold v. Connecticut.

Okay. So if you decide to visit a friends house does him sharing still count as personal use ?

In many communities you have a guy who cooks plates of food and sells them. While technically this is illegal with out a permit, it’s usually tolerated.

I’m all for the legalization of everything for adults, but it’s a very complex issue. Education is the way here, not punishment


No one argues these things are not able to be regulated. Instead, per the 10th amendment, it must be left to state law since Congress does not have unlimited power and may only legislate where power has been granted to them by the constitution.

I believe the original idea of the Constitution was that most things would be regulated at the state level.

This is pretty much already the case with marijuana, where it's illegal at the federal level, but in practice if it's legal in your state then it's legal.


"Pretty much" is doing quite a bit of work there. The feds ignoring marijuana use in states that have legalized or decriminalized it is the DoJ actively deciding not to prosecute MJ cases. They could absolutely send the FBI or whatever into a state with legalized marijuana and raid dispensaries and arrest people if they wanted to.

I'm convinced they don't do exactly that because they know it would ultimately result in the Supreme Court overturning Filburn.

> I’d be concerned about Billy selling homemade GPLs or whatever.

Would it be better with a BSD license?


Been samplin’ a little bit of Grandpa’s attribution clause, have we?

Lazy. It just spits out demographic info.

I will say I am impressed with Instagram advertising me music software. I really like making music and I’ve bought quite a few things off of Instagram ads.

That’s advertising done right!


Wait ?

You don't trust Nvidia because the drivers are closed source ?

I think Nvidia's pledged to work on the open source drivers to bring them closer to the proprietary ones.

I'm hopping Intel can catch up , at 32GB of VRAM for around 1000$ it's very accessible


Nvidia is opening their source code because they moved most of their source code to the binary blob they're loading. That's why they never made an open source Nvidia driver for Pascal or earlier, where the hardware wasn't set up to use their giant binary blobs.

It's like running Windows in a VM and calling it an open source Windows system. The bootstrapping code is all open, but the code that's actually being executed is hidden away.

Intel has the same problem AMD has: everything is written for CUDA or other brand-specific APIs. Everything needs wrappers and workarounds to run before you can even start to compare performance.


Huawei’s CANN is fully open and supposedly a drop-in replacement for CUDA. The latter could make it a supеrior option to either AMD or Intel.

In the python eco system you can just replace CUDA with DirectML in at least one popular framework and it just runs. You are limited to windows then though.

Nvidia has been pledging that for years. If it ever actually happens, I am here for it.


Their userspace is still closed. ROCm is fully open.

Provided you happen to have one of those few supported GPUs.

Thus being open source isn't of much help without it.


> Intel

For some workloads, the Arc Pro B70 actually does reasonably well when cached.

With some reasonable bring-up, it also seems to be more usable versus the 32gb R9700.


I have both of those cards. Llama.cpp with SYCL has thus far refused to work for me, and Vulkan is pretty slow. Hoping that some fixes come down the pipe for SYCL, because I have plenty of power for local models (on paper).

Hmm.

I had to rebuild llama.cpp from source with the SYCL and CPU specific backends.

Started with a barebones Ubuntu Server 24 LTS install, used the HWE kernel, pulled in the Intel dependencies for hardware support/oneapi/libze, then built llama.cpp with the Intel compiler (icx?) for the SYCL and NATIVE backends (CPU specific support).

In short, built it based mostly on the Intel instructions.


Hoping to release a beat tape. I've given up on trying to create new apps to try and get VC money. I tried this, often with exploitive co founders who expected me to basically make Facebook, but BETTER in a month for 3% of their company which doesn't exist.

I also make small games with Godot.


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