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It's generally not curious discussion however, which is a pillar of this community.

I currently own 5 luxury vehicles and have ridden in a Cybertruck, and the Cybertruck is so far below in terms of quality it makes me question what luxury features you see in it.

air suspension, heated and air cooled comfortable leather seats, 15 high quality speakers, everything is soft to the touch (minus the window switches), super fast high quality software (that alone is a huge draw for me, most other cars have terrible software)

honestly don't need much more than that - yes it doesn't have a fridge or massaging seats or whatever, but thats usually in cars with a higher price point too


Well how can they have the time or resources to invest in retaining talent? They're busy hiring more interns, where one could be an "attention all you need" research paper writer, who could set up the next stage of innovation which you'll completely miss if you do not get anyone.

I'm just glad that this can never happen in America thanks to our constitution!

I generally disagree, because the level of discourse here has always been very high, curious and intellectual.

Maybe 1:100 comments match any one of those attributes.

Most comments are just grammatically "correct". Not a high bar.


The comments that aren't grammatically correct get pedantically corrected by those HNers too, so that's nice.

It has, and the well prompted agents still give that. It's very weird.

I just don’t even understand the appeal of having a bot interact on forums for you unless you’re astroturfing for your company or personal brand or whatever

Definitely. Can you imagine the kind of world we'd live in if we had to sign each message with each product we used?

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Curious as to why American EVs never took off. The US is the most advanced country technologically and has the greatest soft power in history to make deals.

Several reasons:

1. Unlike the rest of the world, EVs were sold in the US as muscle cars for rich people (e.g. Tesla). Everywhere else they're cheap cars for urban commuters (e.g. BYD).

2. Republicans sabotaged every attempt from the Democrats to get EVs going on.

3. Space and demography: EVs do very well in small countries (e.g. Europe) or big countries with a concentrated population (e.g.Brasil, Nigeria). They do poorly in countries with big distances and a spread out population.


3. Sweden/Norway have a lot of EVs while distances are not small like Netherlands etc and are also less urban than the US.

> EVs were sold in the US as muscle cars for rich people

Yeah, the Nissan Leaf was a high-torque monster. Though to describe the BMW i3 as a muscle car is... not the descriptor I would use.

EVs were not sold by every OEM as high-power drag-strip rock stars - that's just what it took to get Americans to pay attention


3. Will change soon enough. Except in the land of the free, oil.

> The US is the most advanced country technologically

Certainly not in cars. The US car industry really more or less stopped even _trying_ to compete internationally in the 90s or so. The sole exception was Ford, but they went for an unusual approach where Ford Europe designed its own cars, using parts from Bosch etc. Ford Europe is now also all but dead in the consumer space, too. To a large extent the US car industry survives due to protectionism (notably this: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chicken_tax).


Incidentally, it's far from what you'd expect, but the US is actually probably more influential in public transport than private transport on an export basis; Cummins is very competitive in the diesel engine space for buses, and the ridiculously-named Wabtec (previously GE and Westinghouse's train-y divisions) is big in locomotive tech.

Though AIUI US companies are largely failing to keep up there, now, too; diesel city buses are on the way out, and electric bus powertrains are largely Chinese or European.


> The US is the most advanced country technologically

Because the US is the most backward advanced country socially/politically


Incumbent American automakers had a hard time switching over. EVs require significant expertise that they didn't have, and didn't particularly want to acquire.

Only Tesla designed cars to be electric from a clean sheet. And they were doing extremely well for a long time, and had an enormous lead. But they squandered it in a variety of ways.

The automakers and oil interests spent a lot of effort badmouthing electric cars. To hear Americans talk about it, they need to haul giant boats on their daily 400 mile commutes into uncharted forest. They didn't come up with "range anxiety"; it was deliberately spread.

For a while there was a partisan divide about it, with electric cars seen as a hippie-liberal choice, much as hybrids used to be. Then circa 2020 Elon Musk began to systematically alienate that market.


Must be the confident free speech.

People on this site would literally say "actually you can't do this" as they're being taken away to somewhere to never be heard from again.


Its an astounding level of naivity from people who have undoubtedly read textbooks filled cover to cover with a human history almost entirely consisting of subjugation through violence.


Is there any evidence of this happening? Sources.


Are they initiating or continuing curious discussion? If so, then by all means they are following the most important HN guidelines so nothing can really be done.


Unfortunately there's a large grey zone (IMO) between what the rules forbid and curious discussion that's productive. Those that seek to game the system don't generally stand out as bad actors since that would hinder their goals.


Bot/AI generated comments are specifically against the guidelines (and also implicitly, given the fact that bots aren't curious).


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