To everyone who hold the 'western value': do you know that one
of the biggest jokes of your 'western value' is that you think
it applies everywhere in the world in the same form, and you take it as a disguise and do harmful things to the people of other countries(of course, this is all done by the hands of politicians). You don't understand that there can be different values. So when you look at things from this perspective, you always think that the Chinese government is evil.
You put 'human rights' all day long beside your mouth, haha, but never really investigate if human rights in China really worse than western countries. US government criticizes the Chinese government for this all day long but never say nothing
about their arabic friends. And Snowden is from US, right?
You have never had experience to truely live in a country of 1.4 billion people, let alone governing one. You don't understand how to unite people with such great quantity and diversity. You don't understand what chaos will come if everyone can purse his political dreams.
Western value emphasizes on the value of individuals, while in china we balance between individual and the whole nation. Interestingly, I want to use the word '集体(jiti)' in Chinese, but I can't find a suitable word in English, so I used nation.
Maybe you never thought of that.
As to why CCP is blocking the internet? Because, the blocked sites contains values that is not really about freedom or human rights, instead that is like virus, that will do harm to our values and the interest our the Chinese people. For now, as a newborn ancient nation, our value is not strong enough yet. Your values will not bring Chinese people human rights and prosperity. No revolution can be done without being based on history, we have our tradition and our value. When it's powerful enough, enough that Chinese people won't be harmed by western politicians, that you are all convinced the world can have different values and still a harmony world. our value will be more open to the world.
To those who won't like to trade their values for Chinese goods, my advice: Don't Buy ANY Chinese Goods. We can see whose life will become tougher.
P.S.: As a Chinese, I have every means to access the 'free' internet(as anyone who really want in China) and know what's all about in it, know all the bad words about China and CCP and know most of them are not real. So I think censorship for now is a great idea for we Chinese to focus on forging a beautiful life for ourselves.
for our people.
>You put 'human rights' all day long beside your mouth, haha, but never really investigate if human rights in China really worse than western countries. US government criticizes the Chinese government for this all day long but never say nothing about their arabic friends. And Snowden is from US, right?
But how exactly are we to investigate China? Can a western journalist (or indeed any journalist) travel freely around China with no minders? Can they interview people and freely publish their opinions without fear of any ill effects on those speaking?
Is uniting the country really what it wants anyhow (maybe a few people in Tibet or Xinjiang are not so enthusiastic as you?).
Your argument rests on "I'm pretty happy and hopefully everyone else is too" but you have no way at all of knowing that.
True investigation of a country requires a lot of time and effort, you have to live and feel the people here, reading reports will not give you a true understanding even it's based on facts. Unfortunately, statistically most western journalists now are extremely biased as it comes to politics. They are writing things for you to read, not for us. They will write things that you will understand and you will like, even if they tell lies. There are many examples of how western
journalists made fake reports on Xizang(Tibet) and Xinjiang. That does a lot of harm to China's politics and diplomacy in the world. So if a foreigner wants freedom, he/she should prove to deserve it. I think now many foreigners in China get almost the same level of freedom as Chinese citizens.
As to uniting the country, in Chinese history, every time when China is united as a whole, people get better life. Once divided, wars come, that is a whole disaster to Chinese people. There is always a force in China to make the country unite, that will make the whole Chinese people's lives better. You see, even EU is uniting European countries, unite brings greater good, though not everyone of 1.4 billion understands it. Sorry, here, we can't let everyone shout his voice out.
As to "I'm pretty happy and hopefully everyone else is too", no I didn't say that. Actually, I'm not that happy, and everyone in China is not that happy. But you have to see what we are worrying about. I have traveled around the country and lived in many cities and in the countryside(I have many relatives there), and I have quite a few friends from Xinjiang and Xizang(Tibet) too. For now, if you don't live in deep mountains, your life quality will be good. Food good, cloth good, water and power supply good, hygiene condition good. But there is still a lot of improvements to go, we don't want merely good, we want fantastic. So we are all worried how to make more money, work harder get a better job, when can I buy my own dream flat, how to teach our children better, how to make our parents happy. I think worrying about these kinds of problems is much better than worrying about the problems of refugees in Syria.
You've pointed out some of the US's flaws, but pointing out that one's critic has flaws doesn't justify the shamelessly blunt repression that the Chinese government prides itself on.
If the perception is that US cultural imperialism is so strong that something as extreme as the Golden Shield is necessary, well, I don't buy it. Regardless, it'd be better to solve that problem itself (international corporations that prey on countries via neoliberalism). But the Golden Shield is more about the Chinese Communist Party maintaining power -- hence the drama around "Tiananmen" searches. The defense of the Golden Shield that's based on a criticism of Western influence seems like misdirection and, apparently, successful propaganda.
> As to why CCP is blocking the internet? Because, the blocked sites contains values that is not really about freedom or human rights, instead that is like virus, that will do harm to our values and the interest our the Chinese people.
Who defines what is in the best interest for the Chinese people?
If Chinese people start to argue about this, haha, then damn it, our lives are doomed. Deng Xiaoping has said: "Don't argue, just try it, just do it." China has made mistakes arguing, and the outcome is horrible.
However, there is something close to a common sense now, the best interest for Chinese people in the first 100 years of PRC is to lead all the Chinese people to live at least in moderate prosperity, to build a modern country.
Open discourse and debate are how new ideas emerge and either flourish or return to obscurity. The "chaos" you fear is the forge for the future.
Without advances in science, political thought, and technology, we will implode from over population, new diseases, lack of food, diminishing resources, and bottled up dissent fed by perceived injustices and those same diminishing resources.
With censorship you may be able to make everything appear quiet on the surface, however you are shaking the beer can and it only a matter of time before it ruptures.
You put 'human rights' all day long beside your mouth, haha, but never really investigate if human rights in China really worse than western countries. US government criticizes the Chinese government for this all day long but never say nothing about their arabic friends. And Snowden is from US, right?
You have never had experience to truely live in a country of 1.4 billion people, let alone governing one. You don't understand how to unite people with such great quantity and diversity. You don't understand what chaos will come if everyone can purse his political dreams.
Western value emphasizes on the value of individuals, while in china we balance between individual and the whole nation. Interestingly, I want to use the word '集体(jiti)' in Chinese, but I can't find a suitable word in English, so I used nation. Maybe you never thought of that.
As to why CCP is blocking the internet? Because, the blocked sites contains values that is not really about freedom or human rights, instead that is like virus, that will do harm to our values and the interest our the Chinese people. For now, as a newborn ancient nation, our value is not strong enough yet. Your values will not bring Chinese people human rights and prosperity. No revolution can be done without being based on history, we have our tradition and our value. When it's powerful enough, enough that Chinese people won't be harmed by western politicians, that you are all convinced the world can have different values and still a harmony world. our value will be more open to the world.
To those who won't like to trade their values for Chinese goods, my advice: Don't Buy ANY Chinese Goods. We can see whose life will become tougher.
P.S.: As a Chinese, I have every means to access the 'free' internet(as anyone who really want in China) and know what's all about in it, know all the bad words about China and CCP and know most of them are not real. So I think censorship for now is a great idea for we Chinese to focus on forging a beautiful life for ourselves. for our people.