I can make a python script that prints out stuff while I'm streaming, too. He hasn't demonstrated squat.
But, let's say he does have a working compiler. It's very probable that he does. Why doesn't he release it, then?
Well you see, the only way it's possible to really effectively criticize a programming language is to use it. By not releasing the compiler, he avoids real criticism.
So, no, I don't take him seriously on PL design. At best, he's scared of criticism, but wants to be able to criticize others. At worst, he's a fraud.
I'm not a PL designer, but from everything I've heard him say regarding PL design, I agree with your assessment that one probably shouldn't take PL design advice from him (or at the least take them with a grain of salt).
However I don't think there is any need to suggest he's a "fraud", the language is "fantasy" or faked for the stream. I also don't think that there is any need for him to release the compiler.
Have you considered that Jai is just a hobby project? Many programmers choose writing a programming language as a hobby project so why shouldn't he? Releasing a compiler to the public and having everyone demand that he also maintains it for every corner case they have is a lot less fun than just working on it for your own scope and showing it off/discussing it in your stream.
Did he say something that offended you? He shares his opinions to people who ask about it. Often his opinions are shared on his livestream - which is an environment he ultimately owns.
I’m a bit shocked at your attitude with this. Your conviction is unnerving. The existence of jai doesn’t prevent the existence of Rust or other languages.
> I can make a python script that prints out stuff while I'm streaming, too. He hasn't demonstrated squat.
Creating a Python script that makes it look like you have an actual compiler is harder than you think it is.
> At best, he's scared of criticism, but wants to be able to criticize others. At worst, he's a fraud.
I wouldn't say he is scared of criticism, more like he is not yet at the state that he wants to accept criticism. I wouldn't want people to comment on my half-finished projects too, but this doesn't mean I can't say that something else couldn't be better.
So people can watch him develop software? The same reason why you might stream a "let's play" but not be interested in somebody commenting on how bad of a gamer you are?
The issue is that he uses that platform to criticize other languages. That's my root problem, here. If all he did was write code, then nobody would care.
I'd be okay if he never spoke about it as the next big thing in programming with no intention of releasing it for public criticism. It's 100% okay to have private, in-house tools.
> I can make a python script that prints out stuff while I'm streaming, too.
I really doubt this. The amount of effort and acting that would need to go into being able to script in advance the sort of mistakes you make when programming would be astronomic. You would have to never make a typo when you weren't supposed to, always make a typo when you are, somehow deal with the fact that when you get stuck you need to be able to respond to audience feedback, and so on and so forth. (Oh, and interactive 3d programs not just text to a terminal).
That's a lot harder than making a programming language.
> Why doesn't he release it, then?
Because he doesn't think public feedback would be helpful at this time. Because he wants to release software that he can take pride in instead of a alpha level programming language. Because that's what he is used to from game development. Because he feels like it. Etc. Why does it matter? You aren't entitled to it.
If he doesn't feel like public feedback would be helpful, then why is he streaming about it? That doesn't make any sense at all.
I'm not entitled to shit, but he's also not entitled to a platform. He's a game designer. He's released games. If he wants to talk about games design, I'm all ears.
> If he doesn't feel like public feedback would be helpful, then why is he streaming about it? That doesn't make any sense at all.
He _does_ take feedback from the public. That is, from people who take him seriously and participate in the conversation.
The compiler _is_ released in a closed beta. You could be a part of that if you were a productive voice in his language design discussions.
Instead, you're condescending:
> I can make a python script that prints out stuff while I'm streaming, too. He hasn't demonstrated squat.
> He's a game designer. He's released games. If he wants to talk about games design, I'm all ears.
Why would _anyone_ want to hear your ideas on their language if you believe these statements?
He's provided hours and hours of discussion on Jai and language design, explained most decisions he's taken and changes he's made since the inception of the language, documented the language's journey, _paid_ for people to work on the language, and we get to read "he could be faking it?" Yeah, he faked compiling programs with literal input from Twitch chat. The guy's a magician, not a programmer.
Why is the default that everyone should release the things they make? Maybe he just wants to use it for himself and is uninterested in anyone else using it.
But, let's say he does have a working compiler. It's very probable that he does. Why doesn't he release it, then?
Well you see, the only way it's possible to really effectively criticize a programming language is to use it. By not releasing the compiler, he avoids real criticism.
So, no, I don't take him seriously on PL design. At best, he's scared of criticism, but wants to be able to criticize others. At worst, he's a fraud.