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No, it is moved from the morning. In return for this "extra hour" you have to pay with waking up in the dark and doing your morning commute in the dark.

I grew up in a permanent DST and I don’t have fond memories of it. Over there public health officials are actually advocating to moving back to standard time because teenagers in particular are sleep deprived. Going to bed earlier is not a realistic option as proven by experience.



It also gets worse in the western edges of each time zone.

https://www.vox.com/science-and-health/2020/3/6/21167826/day...


> In return for this "extra hour" you have to pay with waking up in the dark and doing your morning commute in the dark

Unless you're a senior citizen who's retired and doesn't like late nights, I don't get why for most people, darkness wouldn't be preferred for those "nothing" activities, so an extra hour of light can then be enjoyed after they get home from work/school/whatever. Otherwise, yeah, you're enjoying the light in the morning... from the inside of a car... on your way to a day of obligations where you're stuck inside usually doing things you have to do rather than things you want to do.

I think most people would rather have that extra hour of light for after they get home from work/school/whatever, so they can actually enjoy the outdoors a bit when they get home.

I always hated the feeling from late fall until early spring of being excited to be done school/work... only to get home and it be dark so basically the only thing I can do is walk inside and stay in there until the next day.


> I think most people would rather have that extra hour of light for after they get home from work/school/whatever, so they can actually enjoy the outdoors a bit when they get home.

People thank that they do, but their brain disagrees. There are numerous other posts on this thread indicating that public health experts agree with peoples brains in that the extra hour in the after noon is not worth the early rise.

> I always hated the feeling from late fall until early spring of being excited to be done school/work... only to get home and it be dark so basically the only thing I can do is walk inside and stay in there until the next day.

So here we have a problem, it can be solved by changing the clock to give you an extra evening hour at the cost of an early rise which leads the sleep deprivation for a large group of people. However it can also be solved in a number of different ways. Labour laws can be passed which mandates shorter working hours and/or winter vacation. Your local government can invest in more public spaces with good lighting and commercial activities close to peoples work places so that you can e.g. jump to a bar with your classmates/colleagues for the last hour of sun during mid-winter. Etc. Moving the clock seems like the radical option here, especially given the detrimental public health effects.


> doing your morning commute in the dark

This really depends on location within the timezone. And some places, e.g. Michigan, are simply in the wrong time zone.


Indeed, however public policy makers must be aware of how this affects majority of people. Having natural noon between 12:00 at the eastern edge of a time zone to 13:00 on the western edge, is much preferable to 13:00 (east) and 14:00 (west). Even though the effects are the same for east on permanent DST and west on standard. They are very much detrimental—as in increases risk of sleep deprivation—for west on DST and public policy makers must take that into account when making decision.




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