Hacker Newsnew | past | comments | ask | show | jobs | submitlogin

>what information constitutes spying is arbitrary

No it isn't.

The word "spy" has a very specific definition, that you'd have stretch pretty far to include any of the data collected by the Terminal app.



No you wouldn’t. It is taking data you haven’t explicitly approved for release. Potential sensitive info.

That is the definition of spying.

You know most of what an actual spy collects isn’t super secret stuff right? Aggregated unclassified information can still reveal secrets.


What is sensitive about knowing some unidentifiable person clicked a button 10 times?

Nothing. Nothing at all.


All that shows is a lack of imagination on your part.

It’s very easy to de-anonymize telemetry data, track users across IP addresses, collate with other application’s telemetry data, determine which users are in the same places at the same time, and generally extract a huge amount of data about people, who they spend time with, where they spend time, and what they do there.

Telemetry is unequivocally spyware.

It feeds a firehose of data to the internet, and both data brokers and state actors do absolutely everything they can to gobble it up.




Guidelines | FAQ | Lists | API | Security | Legal | Apply to YC | Contact

Search: