Or the helpful Windows 11 right-click folder context menu... where you have to click again for more options to do advanced things like "paste", and the only way to get rid of it is to edit the registry.
What The Actual Fuck Is Happening. /rant
Edit: and also, since they've shoved OneDrive/Teams/O365/SharePoint/Etc down our throats you'd think there'd be a clear and obvious interface for sharing a file within this new, enlightened context menu... except that's mysteriously an icon and not a labelled option like the rest of the options instead. Great for discovery!
I agree, and it moves from the top to the bottom, and the icons which are available change depending on where you click. Clearly the visual style isn't a problem for vel0city, but I consistently need to hover over these to confirm what they are.
True, but somehow I am never confident clicking on it. They have managed to make it confusing even with the same shape. Maybe due to the fact that all icons are very similar in colour?
Not really. It's closer to the mouse right after a right click now than it used to be. Now it's the first, most immediate choice in the right click menu while on Windows 10 and most other older versions of Windows it's like the 4th option down.
Well I looked hard and didn't see it, and while you're obviously free to like the new style, I think it's terrible and I'm angry they made it so hard to revert.
Like... why is it a mix of icons and dropdowns?? Why do the icons switch between being on the top and bottom?? Why is it low contrast??
> Why do the icons switch between being on the top and bottom??
To be closer to the mouse, because those are by far the most used tasks.
They started using icons for those tasks used the most so they're closer to the mouse so it's faster to click on. The by far most common tasks in the right click menu are now a single row that's always right next to the mouse when you right click. Instead of being like the fourth or sixth or depending on what else has mucked with your context menu the twelfth item.
Well fuck me but that does seem to prove my point. I looked hard and did not see it, since mixing (faint, low contrast) icons and text items is a terrible design. Not giving users an easy way to opt out shows so much contempt.
I can't imagine that would be the case. It's the first option. Literally, the very first option when you've got something to be pasted. Item #1. The closest thing to the mouse cursor immediately after right clicking. If you bothered to look, you would have seen it.
Grow an imagination - I was looking for the fucking text that's been there for decades instead of a new low contrast icon. Discovering that the old version was available under "more options" I went with that (and I use keyboard shortcuts more often, so I didn't continue to investigate beyond what was required to disable the new menu).
** Also, it's NOT necessarily the first option - it moves between the top and bottom depending on where you click. **
It's also not something that used to appear and disappear based on the state of the clipboard, so further investigation may not have shown it (unexpectedly).
Clearly you like contextually responsive icons that behave like floating div's in a webpage, and you have been paying attention to the shape/format of the paste symbol to visually identify it all these years. That experience is not universal.
I've discussed this with several people, and you're the first to point out the icon that I missed - everyone I've talked to missed it as well.
> you have been paying attention to the shape/format of the paste symbol
Yes I've noticed it a few times over the 28 years since Windows 95 was released. It's not like it's some symbol that they only started using a few weeks ago.
> Also, it's NOT necessarily the first option
It's the first in that it's the one closest to the mouse.
I bet everyone you talked to was primed to not like it from the get go, with people telling them that basic functionality isn't there even though it is, so they reflexively went to the show more options aka switch back to the old without actually looking for it. When you've been told it's missing basic functionality and you don't immediately get it, aren't you more likely to assume it isn't there instead of actually looking?
> Yes I've noticed it a few times over the 28 years
You're being purposely obtuse - the point wasn't that it's a mystery, but that many people have deeply ingrained visual habits focusing on text, and you don't get to just assume everyone reacts to visual interfaces the same way you do. Not to mention that the previously discoverable and self explanatory text which has always just been light grey when not applicable now disappears depending on context in addition to being in a new place and purely represented by a (new, stylized, low contrast) icon.
Like, its OK that you like it, but you're being really presumptuous about how trivial and obvious it should be, especially since everyone in this thread probably has a different DPI monitor and interface scale.
TL;DR, don't fucking tell me I didn't look - maybe I'm some kind of moron, but I looked. With my eyes. For text.
I did not see it, and I think it's bad interface design. And I have now run out of shits to give about this conversation.
Right here buddy. You did one quick scan only for the word Paste, assumed it didn't do it because you didn't immediately see see the word, so you instead worked on trying to force the old menu. You said it yourself. You didn't bother actually looking at the new menu outside of seeing if the word "Paste" was there. You didn't think "huh this looks a little different, maybe I should see what those new icons are about...". Nah. Just ignore those, they're new so therefore they're bad and should be ignored.
You didn't actually look. Instead of bothering half a second to give the new thing a chance you actively moved to try and force bring back the old thing.
And I'm being obtuse? You're claiming you have to constantly hover over scissors to understand cut and a trash can to understand delete. You're the one proudly proclaiming of features not existing when they do exist.
i don't get a 'rename' option in right-click menu.. but i get a PowerRename option.. these should be flipped around. normal rename is going to be used a lot more.
The fact that they didn't provide an easy way to revert this awful menu pisses me off. Its even worse because I know they'll change it again after I've been forced to eat the dogfood at work for long enough to get used to the bad, low contrast mix of icons and text. Kind of like how they keep moving the Outlook calendar/mail buttons.
