I was hoping I could say the same for Gemini, but unfortunately their policy at https://support.google.com/gemini/answer/13594961?visit_id=6... says "Google uses this data, consistent with our Privacy Policy, to provide, improve, and develop Google products and services and machine-learning technologies"

My intuition is that Google don't directly train on user conversations (because user conversations are full of both junk and sensitive information that no model would want to train on), but I can't state that with any credibility.

That's worth literally nothing.

Reputation has far more value than whatever they gain by lying. Besides, they can just say "We do xyz" because <1% of users read the TOS and less than <0.1% care enough to not use the service.

> Also Google: "Let's do all the evil things..." ~ heavily "paraphrased" ;)

My "tongue-in-cheek point" is that it seems like corporations beyond a certain point of "filthy-richness" just do as they please, and say what they please, and mostly neither thing has to agree with the other, nor does either one need affect their profits "bottom line" all that seriously much. Most of your typical "mega-corps" are really only able to be affected much by the laws and legal system, which they've been increasingly "capturing" in various ways so that happens very rarely anymore these days, and when it does it's most often a "slap on the wrist" and "don't do that!" sorta thing, followed by more business-as-usual.

You know the old worry about the "paperclip production maximizer AI" eating everything to create paperclips? That's kinda where we're pretty-much already at with mega-corps. They're so utterly laser-focused on maximizing to extract every last dime of profit out of everything that they're gonna end up literally consuming all matter in the universe if they don't just destroy us all in the process of trying to get there.

https://www.decisionproblem.com/paperclips/ #-the-game

I'm not arguing that the grocery store saying "fresh produce" guarantees that the produce is fresh. Fresh, like evil, is subjective.

I'm saying that if the grocery puts "All our produce is no older than 10 days" you can be pretty sure they adhere to that and train employees to follow it. "10 days" is not subjective.

Big companies not only lie, some of them do so routinely, including breaking the law. Look at the banking industry: Wells Fargo fraudulent / fake account scandal, JPMorgan Chase UST and precious metals future fraud. Standard Charter bank caught money laundering for Iran, twice. Deutsche Bank caught laundering for Russia, twice. UBS laundering and tax evasion. Credit Suisse caught laundering for Iran. And so on.

Really it comes down to what a company believes it can get away with, and what the consequences will be. If there are minimal consequences they'd be dumb not to try.

Oh I just remembered a funny one: remember when it came out that Uber employees were using "God view" to spy on ex-partners, etc? For years. Yeah I'm pretty sure the TOS didn't have a section "Our employees may, from time to time, spy on you at their discretion." Actually the opposite, Uber explicitly said they couldn't access ride information for its users.

Note that such reputation risks are external and internal. The reputation reflects on the executive team and there is a risk that the executive team members may leave or attempt to get the unscrupulous employee fired.

With react you are more productive, my web experience is worse than without a those frameworks.

And LLMs get worse if they are trained on AI generated text. At the current speed I don't know if in 10 years AI is still worse the high costs.

You cannot begin to know that for sure and really makes little to no sense if you think about it.

As with the anti-electron crowd the options are not:

* Electron app

or

* Bespoke, hand-crafted, made with love, native app

The options are normally “electron app” or “nothing”.

Same deal here. Taking away React/Angular/Vue won’t magically make people write more performant websites. I’m sure people bitched about (and continue to) PHP for making it easy for people to create websites that aren’t performant or Wordpress for all its flaws. It’s the same story that’s repeated over and over in tech circles and I find it both silly and incredibly short-sighted. Actually I find it tiring because you can always go one level deeper to one-up these absurd statements. It’s No True Scotsman all the way down.

In the time before all those framework like react the UX was better for me than now.

Less flashy, animated but faster.