If you’re not witnessing it then that’s only because you’re not noticing it, unless you think a large chunk of the population is just a bunch of liars.
Also you need to explain why there is a huge racial imbalance in elite jobs.
Also you need to explain literal blinded studies demonstrating racism in callbacks based on resumes.
None of it excuses reverse discrimination but denying it is happening is just not based in reality.
> you need to explain why there is a huge racial imbalance in elite jobs.
Well, that's easily explained by demographic history.
Here in the UK, we only had mass immigration from the Middle East and Africa within the last couple of generations, and many of the people who came were emmigrating from countries with low rates of literacy.
We wouldn't expect white-collar roles to match the demographic makeup of the population in tight lock-step. We cannot ignore the differences in economic and educational background, and the time it takes to attain elite high responsibility jobs in terms of career tenure.
Luckily, children of ethnic minority immigrants are performing well in the UK school system, so hopefully over a generation or two we should naturally see the trend improve. But while our population is expanding at approx 900K per year, with many from low-income countries with poor education systems, we will continue to see demographic imbalances in elite roles.
> you need to explain literal blinded studies demonstrating racism in callbacks based on resumes.
I don't discount that racism exists. I simply pointed out that the only racism and sexism I've experienced in the workplace has been _against_ white people, as opposed to _perpetrated by_ white people.
DEI, by lowering the bar for certain genders and races, is actually promoting prejudice against those groups. It sends the message that these people need a leg up.
Yes, exactly. Because people in power decide to keep wealth for themselves and people who look like themselves, and because when minorities start to gain power, then the majority crushes them.
To the degree that I've seen non-URM males get discriminated against? Not even remotely. Here's some discrimination I've witnessed.
* I've worked at companies where the first thing we did was mark resumes by the candidate's demographics. Two stars for "double diverse" URM women (recruiters' words, not mine), one star for URM males and non-URM women, and "ND" for Asian Males. "Negative diversity".
* I worked at a company that cordoned off a segment of headcount and made it only available to women and URM candidates.
* I worked at companies that docked people's pay if they didn't hit a diversity quota. Remember a "bonus" is just another word for a penalty. If I have $X bonus conditional on reaching Y% women that's the same as a penalty if you don't hit the quota.
I'm sure women have had co-workers assume they weren't developers, or have meetings where they were talked over, etc. But not once have I witnessed a company deliberately try to set up a policy to disadvantage a woman or URM candidate. Whereas for non-URM men, it has been the norm rather than the exception.
In any company of a large size, you will always get bad people. But many companies in tech have a lot of good people that don't discriminate. I worked at Uber and it was one of the most progressive companies I've seen. Yes, Susan Fowler's experience was real and disgusting and should never have happened. But I know a dozen females personally that said that working at Uber was their best job ever and they never felt discriminated against ever.
