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Reasoning like this is part of the reason why history keep repeating itself. Completely ignoring how previous US led decapitations turned out, and just hoping this time will be different.

It should not be contentious at this point, the US only cares about the geopolitical value of Venezuela, and if supporting another dictator helps towards this end, then that's what will happen.



The sheer ignorance . To form such an opinion, with such confidence and literally the only grounding is a few women he/she has dated. We are living in an idiocracy.


And the sentence "What really stood out to me was how intelligent Venezuelans are"... no shit, Sherlock, people are intelligent, we're all one species, what did he expect?


He expected what commonly tweeted “IQ by race / country” memes say on X, which is to say they regurgitate old debunked scientific racism that is now popular once again due to confirmation bias.


Significant IQ differences DO exist across countries, with key factors being education, health & nutrition, socioeconomic status, environmental factors (more controversial), the Flynn effect.


Importantly: we have no way of knowing that, because there is no such thing as a country-by-country survey of mean or median IQ.


Dude, theres not much point in arguing that. You see this kind of 5th column in the aftermath of most popular revolutions, from Iran to Chavez in Venezuela. A whole horde of folks who were part of the previous elites (or more likely, their functionaries) who decamp en masse to the US, where they proceed to spout unhinged propaganda ad infinitum.

A tell tale is how they tend to completely overlook (to the point of pretending it isnt happening) the role of economic sanctions, blockades & other forms of coercive pressure on the economies of those countries. Instead, putting it all down to local actions by local actors.

There won't be much mention of any of the social improvements & economic uplift which Chavez in particular was able to do, before the external economic pressures became overbearing.

When you can control the narrative on both sides of the equation to this extent, kidnapping the leader of a sovereign (until today) country seems almost normal.

Jeffery Sachs summed it up best a couple of hours ago. The US is not even pretending to be a constitutionally-governed state any more, and this is just 1 sign of that.


I think I kind of understand why the Soviets were able to industrialize that fast and win an existential war against the mighty Wehrmacht. The so called purges from late 20s to to the 30s were Stalin eliminating these 5th columnists.


The Soviets had a lot of Western assistance with industrializing. Ford in particular played a huge role in the Gorky factories.

The Wehrmacht lost because numbers kind of matter in war. When you look at the natural resources Russia had, the population disparity between Russia and Germany, and the size of territory the Germans attempted to conquer, it really wasn't a close contest at all.


Imagine if they had a huge 5th column at home that was working with the Nazis.They'd have lost


Stalin's purges had absolutely nothing with removing any "5th Column." The White Movement was thoroughly defeated by 1921 as were the Mensheviks etc. Stalin purged his officer class because he was supremely paranoid. And while he killed many of the officers, many were sent to the gulags and recalled to service after the German invasion in 1941.

The entire concept of a 5th column is just fear-mongering by most countries who faced defeat due to their incompetence. And the term was used by countries to impose draconian controls and oppression.




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