Paid over 2,000 usd 2 years ago for t14s and even then it was worth it, now it's almost 10x cheaper. Incredible machine though refurbs often have the lower end of configurations and with soldered ram etc it's not possible to upgrade.

This new modular thinkpad will be crazy for refurb market, I wonder how is Lenovo going to prevent that eating into their sales. This probably means that corporate bulk purchases are majority of their sales and they don't fear to canibalize themselves which makes you wonder why they switched to soldered ram - incredibly unpopular move - at all.